I ordered this kit on a Friday in mid-June. I included an ice pack. The stuff didn't get to my house until Thursday. That's 6 days. The ice pack was completely melted, and the yeast was warm. I put it in the fridge and brewed that next Wednesday. I used the yeast just to see how it would go. About 16 hours after I pitched the yeast, it was chugging along. Temperature in the fridge was maintained at 65 (fridge temp not fermenter temp). About 30 hours after pitching, I had to put a blowoff tube on the carboy. I kept it on for a couple of days. Once fermentation slowed to a bubble or two every minute, I racked to secondary and took a gravity reading. It was at 1.017. Aroma and flavor were spot on. The color was a nice cloudy orange. It has had active fermentation until 3 days after I transferred. I have not bottled yet. I anticipate that it will be spot on. Moral of the story. Order two (or three) ice packs, but if it shows up warm. See what happens. I'll edit once I bottled and try it out.